When you start lower down in a fast car its always easier to make up more places against the cars of much lower performance than your own than when your already towards the front with cars of fairly equal performance in the conditions. Latest News. But what I do consider about that season and it’s last race is that huge credit should go to FM for doing everything right when the pressure was at it’s greatest, while LH did almost everything possible to lose it. Luckily Glock’s tyres were struggling for grip on the last few fast corners and they could get by, but if Hamilton lost the title there, it would have been by his fault alone. If Renault don’t crash in Singapore massa wins that race easily and wins the championship. In the end both were a bit unlucky at different stages of the year and that, too, is racing. Monaco, Monza or Brazil that same year for example. He was obviously quicker than his position demanded, he was playing too safe, and when he got passed by Vettel on a great passing move, I was thinking it was all over- and he had only himself to blame there. The only thing left is that some fans of Massa and Ferrari are just frustrated and can’t swallow it no matter what. 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Hungary and Singapore, Hamilton gained points from massas falling back and retirement Massa lost them, he lost 10 whole points in Hungary, massa was better in 2008, Ed Marques (@edmarques) 11th November 2015, 23:38. 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix If a race where the championship doesn’t get decided until the final corner of the final lap isn’t one of the greatest of all-time, then what is? … He had started his single-seater racing career in 2000 and impressed immediately by winning the ADAC Formula Junior Cup (2000) and the Formula BMW ADAC championship (2001). Glock is racing driver currently racing in the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters. His following season proved me right. Right until the final race in the Brazil Grand Prix, the winner remained … Timo Glock; Glock në vitin 2011 Karriera në Formula Një: Kombësia Gjerman: Vitet aktiv 2004, 2008–2012: Ekipe Jordan, Toyota, Virgin, Marussia: Pjesmarrje 95 Kampionate 0 Fitore 0 Podiume 3 Pikët gjithsej 51 Pol pozita 0 Xhiro të shpejta 1 Pjesmarrja e parë Çmimi i madh i Kanadasë 2004: Fitorja e parë – Fitorja e fundit – Pjesmarrja e fundit Çmimi i madh i Brazilit 2012: Sezoni i fundit 20ti (0 pikë) Timo … Patrickl (@patrickl) 12th November 2015, 8:52. Glock needs to be banned from FIA sanctioned events for life. Massa spun there as he just got slightly wide out of the previous corner & that put him onto the dirty part of the track for the 2nd part where he lost grip & spun. Yes (@come-on-kubica) 12th November 2015, 13:36. was saying on here a few days ago Lewis got the penalty because the DATA showed that by cutting the chicane he was faster through the timing loops than on any other lap and was much closer to kimi than he would have been had he gone through the corner behind kimi. @npf1 Fair comment about it taking a whole season of races and circumstances to win a race. Just the last race Massa flew past. 1.4m members in the formula1 community. Never a penalty. That twitter thread where he responds is pretty good fun too for the way he handles it. FM was flawless when it counted most. Ed Marques (@edmarques) 12th November 2015, 0:55. Take a good look at what you’re asking and expecting. I get the impression that the only people who believed in this conspiracy were fans who wanted to see Massa win the title. Between two stints in Formula 1, Glock won the GP2 Series title in 2007. Was the same in 2007 when Hamilton lost by a point. Got a potential story, tip or enquiry? He had the best car but squandered his chances with shambolic drives in such races as silverstone, where he could barely keep his car pointing straight and was lapped by the eventual championship winner, and Spa, where he was nowhere to be seen as he trundled around way off the pace, only to be gifted points by race stewards, who also deducted points off his closest title rival. Spinning alone in Malasya and Siverstone lose him the title. "I actually told the team on the radio that I wanted to come into the pits to change on to wet tyres but they answered that the pits were blocked and there was no chance to get in," he said. Timo Glock has rubbished conspiracy theories suggesting that he deliberately handed the world championship to Lewis Hamilton. And embarrassing in some other instances, like Silverstone with his infamous five-spin-race performed while his title rival shown a Senna-esque display of superiority to the rest of the field. I know 2008 feels like last year but it really happened 7 years ago. So Kimi was merely paying back. But here there really is nothing. Some continue to allege Glock intentionally helped Hamilton, despite there being a clear reason why he was overtaken and the absence of any obvious motive for why he should assist his rival in his fight with Felipe Massa. It was ridiculous driving. It’s just a shame that BMW stopped developing their car in the middle of the year, because I felt Kubica was superb all season long in 2008. Promoted content from around the web | Become a RaceFans Supporter to hide this ad and others, bosyber (@bosyber) 11th November 2015, 22:04. Often untouchable even to his team mate when Ferrari was superior car and he was starting from pole. The Toyota drivers did not, moving Glock up the order, and though he lost two positions on the final lap he still finished higher than he had been running before the rain. Timo Glock insists he did not hand the Formula One world title to Lewis Hamilton after the Briton dramatically overtook him on the last lap in Brazil. Yet Massa is still there, blocking young racing drivers to show their potential.. Rain fell in the latter stages of the race, causing most drivers to switch from dry-weather tyres to intermediates. After it’s over, there are so many races you can point to where either driver could have easily made up the deficit there was at the end of the season and usually there’s a case for the other driver as well. Patrickl (@patrickl) 12th November 2015, 8:54. It takes all 18 (for that season) races, but the pressure was massive for the last race given that it was the Championship decider. Hopefully this one can be put to bed now, for good. He now races for BMW in the DTM. "I had to stay off the racing line because there was so much tyre rubber on it, which becomes incredibly slippery in the wet. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I wouldn’t call Monza a ‘pathetic’ performance & Silverstone was more down to Ferrari going the wrong way on setup expecting the track to dry, Kimi had just as bad a race & spun just as many times as Felipe did. ADD (@addimaf1) 12th November 2015, 20:45. Writing about the incident recently on his blog, former Ferrari press officer Luca Colajanni admitted the team was initially suspicious about Glock’s driving immediately after the race. I especially enjoy that people think one race can lose someone the championship. Timo Glock, Self: Formula 1. Image of competition, glock, number - 7083368 Image of competition, glock, number - 7083368 Stock Photos Usually such theories come up when people see some motive for something more sinister. Join F1 Poule. As of 2012, he driving is for Marussia F1.He has failed to score a point with the team since its creation in 2010 0810-0023 Timo Glock practices a pit stop with the Toyota pit crew - 2008, Formula 1, Hockenheim, Germany, Topshot, Glock, Timo, Toyota, Pits, Speed Blur. Find out more about RaceFans and contact us here. Todfod (@todfod) 12th November 2015, 8:17. I think its pretty clear that Glock didn’t let Lewis past to gift him the championship or anything. Mangy Black Sheep (@mangyblacksheep) 12th November 2015, 14:38. Come on guy’s. To be exact….18.6, Sergio B. Perez (@sergio-perez) 12th November 2015, 3:50. Timo Glock is a German professional racing driver who has primarily competed in the Formula One World Championship (2004, 2008-2012) and the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (2013-Present). They included Massa – who was leading – and Hamilton. 2005 Long Beach Grand Prix March 2008 Before demonstration laps on a … Simply cannot understand whats the point of all these “IF…. "We couldn't do anything about it and had to stay out on dry tyres. And he threw it off in Malaysia. Felipe Massa defied expectations to dominate under pressure in wet conditions win ahead of Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen, giving himself a great chance of winning the title. He started 6th and finished 6th. Symptomatic of a season where Ferrari were being helped out by FIA at every opportunity. Sure, a few other drivers missed their braking point, but how skid off the circuit and ruined 2 other driver’s starts? Or did you notice that just about every race some of drivers lock up a wheel for the first corner? I guess we should say thank you for an extraordinary exchange with Glock. Sports News: Kimi Raikkonen has been named Formula One's biggest earner, pocketing (£27.35 million) nearly three times as much as the next best-paid driver. powersteer (@powersteer) 12th November 2015, 3:30. Timo Glock……………..1:44.731 Jarno Trulli……………..1:44.800 Lewis Hamilton……….1:26.126, Note the times of Jarno Trulli who was Glock’s teammate, and on the same tires, and strategy. To be honest I am fed up with people saying Glock let Hamilton win his first title. Hahaha nobady seems to remember that Lewis had a puncture on that same race losing points as well. If Massa really was unable to deal with the PC ban then he would have been nowhere all year & any year since, however he was quite competitive through 2008 & 2009 & has been more than a match for Valttri Bottas these past 2 years in cars where the lack of TC is a far bigger issue due to the substantial amount of torque the current engines produce. Glock had been on course to finish fourth going into the final lap and dropped to sixth when passed by Sebastian Vettel and Hamilton. Test your F1 knowledge in our FREE 2021 F1 Poule and see who knows best! As the track began to dampen from laps 65-69 Glock’s lap times jumped into the high 1’18s while Trulli lapped in the 1’20s. Lewis Hamilton leads Timo Glock during the Brazilian grand prix. shambolic drives in such races as silverstone, where he could barely keep his car pointing straight. It’s sad so many people have one ‘definitive’ race when it comes to 2008, since it’s kind of revisionist to say something like that. One read: "Question: who are Hamilton's friends in the paddock? News, stories and discussion from … I don't know how anyone can think that I just pulled over. JCost (@jcost) 13th November 2015, 12:58, Craig Woollard (@craig-o) 11th November 2015, 22:17. Photograph: Roland Weihrauch/EPA. 0810-0024 Timo Glock practices a pit stop with the Toyota pit crew - 2008, Formula 1, Hockenheim, … 1.1 Cars. Bafflingly, the circumstances under which Lewis Hamilton won his first world championship in 2008 remains a point of dispute for some. But the German told BBC Radio 5 Live … He still Has me as a fan and i wish him The best im dtm. He had to come in because his fuel was gone while they knew the weather would change in a few laps again. The spin at Malaysia had nothing to do with the ban on traction control, It was never a corner where TC was that active because its basically a flat out kink. Glock driving for Toyota F1 at the 2008 Canadian Grand Prix. The largest catalog of Timo Glock replica helmets is for sale at the best prices. Yeah cos Hamilton didn’t deliver any pathetic performances in 08. 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, Jarno Trulli vs Timo Glock 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, Jarno Trulli vs Timo Glock (click to enlarge) This graph shows the lap times for the Toyota duo of Timo Glock and Jarno Trulli, the only two drivers in the field to stay on dry weather tyres at the end of the race. Manox (@marussi) 12th November 2015, 4:32. feels wierd that my question if he wanted to return is on fanatic, in a good way :) but i wish that people would let this conspiracy die and stop asking him if he let hamilton thru. Glock didn’t have some grunge against Massa. @bosyber I think it’s great, it’s exactly what social media was made for. There’s zero evidence for it, so I assume it’s pure bitterness that their man didn’t win. Read more Timo Glock News » Current Drivers. ONE point is just very painful, because this point could always be found easily by Ferrari or Massa. Manox (@marussi) 12th November 2015, 6:34, Also The Singapore gp. With social media abuzz over the recent Moto GP championship decider in which some accused Marc Marquez of trying to help Jorge Lorenzo beat Valentino Rossi, Glock became drawn into a discussion over whether he did the same for Hamilton in 2008. Timo Glock; Timo Glock Kanadan GP:ssä kaudella 2011. Glock has won twice in the DTM since leaving F1Asked if he would have approached the race differently given the outcome, Glock said he would not have made the change to intermediate tyres, “because we gained two positions with that strategy call”. How do you justify the Spa penalty for Ham, and gift for Mas? Good luck trying to actually quantify ‘all of the advantage’ when they went into the corner side by side, in the middle of heated battle. I was too busy trying to keep my car on the track. That was not enough to convince many pundits who bombarded internet message boards with conspiracy theories as to why Ferrari's Felipe Massa had been denied the drivers' championship. 1 Pictures. Instead they wasted their time and money on the dog of the car that was the 2009 car. Glock's action gave Hamilton the fifth place the Briton needed to clinch the title on the final lap of the Brazilian grand prix on Sunday but said he could not keep his grip after being unable to change to wet tyres. Mon 3 Nov 2008 19.01 EST. Both of them lost positions because of it. Who wasn’t sitting on the edge of their seats? There are facts regarding the last lap of the 2008 Brazilian GP, that some just choose to amazingly ignore. He was in those races. “I am very happy where I am now,” he said on Twitter when asked if he wanted to return to F1. Let me answer that for you – None, other than Lewis.